PDM 013: Stomping Regret ft. Travis Bell

Narrator: Welcome to the home of Project Dream Mastery. Here at PDM, we are challenging the status quo of what it means to follow your dreams and how to unlock the power those dreams will bring to your life. The show experience will be unscripted, authentic and transparent. So now sit back, relax and get inspired with your hosts, Lucas Johnson and Patryk Labuzek.

Patryk Labuzek: You know that feeling of regret that creeps through your head every waking second of the day? That feeling that you should have done something or that feeling of being pissed off that you didn’t make the first move? Or those sudden thoughts that you wish your life was better? In this episode, we have a very special guest from one of our favorite places actually in the entire world. That's Australia. Yeah. So this episode is going to be absolutely epic. Stay tuned for what we have to say.

Lucas P. Johnson: So welcome to the 13th episode of the Project Dream Mastery Show where we help inspire you to follow your dreams, defy expectations, dream big, and love deeply. My name is Lucas Johnson based out of Charlotte, North Carolina.

Patryk Labuzek: And I’m Patryk Labuzek based out of Dublin, Ireland.

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Patryk Labuzek: Guys, this episode is going to be hands down epic, intense, and insane. And it's not everyday that we have the humble privilege of bringing a guest onto the show from another side of the world. And oh, man, it's been tough aligning three time zones together to make this a reality. But we did it. So today we have an amazing guest by the name of Travis Bell based out of Victoria, Australia. And for this episode, we'll be focusing in on stopping regret to live your bucket list.

Lucas P. Johnson: Paddy, I am pumped to get the show started. So let me get Trav introduced properly. Trav’s life started off very different than it is today. At 21 years old, he co-founded a super successful personal training franchise. Now most of us would say wow, that is incredible. However, Trav found himself in a bit of a rut and decided to pursue a different life calling which we will cover shortly. Today, Trav, “The Bucket List Guy”, is one of Australia’s most in-demand motivational speakers and sought-after life and business coaches. Since being named “The Bucket List Guy” he has become a globally recognized thought leader on the topic and been crowned the world’s number one bucket list expert. He's dedicated his life to helping others wake up and live theirs before it’s too late. In addition, Trav has presented a TED Talk which has since received over 135,000 views on YouTube. Very exciting. He has worked with major organizations such as Adidas, PWC, ANZ, BP, National Guard, Grand Hyatt, and many others. His coaching business has roots all over the world which says enough in of itself. Trav’s business The Bucket List Guy and Project Dream Mastery are very well aligned in regards to our missions and we are honored to have him on today's episode. So without a further ado, welcome to the Project Dream Mastery Show, Trav. We are super excited to have you on with us today.

Travis Bell: Patryk, Lucas, that was honestly the best introduction I think I've ever received. Awesome guys. Stoked to be on.

Patryk Labuzek: Happy to hear it.

Lucas P. Johnson: Appreciate that.

Patryk Labuzek: So Trav, there are no expectations here first of all. And if there are, we believe in defying them. So let’s just dig in. Let's break the ice. Say whatever you feel like is important content wise and, you know, I just want to say we did a bit of research. We do it about all of our guests.

Travis Bell: Uh-oh, uh-oh.

Patryk Labuzek: Needless to say, your story is truly, truly incredible. So why don’t we just start there? Tell us your story and what has been the main inspiration for chasing your dreams?

Travis Bell: Well, I mean I guess, you know, it was always breakdown before breakthrough, right? So for me I went through a bout a depression. I found myself instead of going on heavy antidepressants and sleep walking through my life, I decided because that's a bit of a Band-Aid effect, I decided to, you know, get to the root cause, really study psychology, NLP, positive psychology, Carnegie principle, law of attraction. I did like, you know, this is about 10 years ago. I was doing every course known to man, spending a bunch of money, sorry, investing a lot of money to really get to the cause of why I was going through what I was going through. You know, things just got on top of me. And it was actually a friend of mine in one of these seminars that said hey, Trav, why don't you teach this stuff? You've got a fair bit to share. And for me, that helped me compartmentalize what I was going through at the time. And I quite frankly, you know, put on a talk. I invited 40 friends, family, and fools to come along. I knew I had to pay them to be there. When I look back on that talk compared to what I do now, it was shocking. But again, you gotta start somewhere. I was shitting myself though. I honestly was. But during that talk funnily enough, I started sharing my list to do before I die. I always had one written down since I was 18. I'm 47 now and this is only 10 years ago I started sharing this and a lot of people in that room did not know I had one of these lists. So I actually wrote it down and shared it with the group in that webinar, in that seminar. And it inspired people. You know, most people's goals are pay off the house, put the kids through school, do a bit of trouble when they're older and possibly sicker. So for me, it kind of broke the mold in terms of their thinking of the way they looked at their life. And right at the end, someone said how all this list to do before you die stuff, it's really inspired people, inspired us. It went from a shitty seminar to a not-so-shitty seminar and Joe, one of our clients at the time said this list, it's like a bucket list. You're like the bucket list guy. And that's when light bulb moment. I went home and registered TheBucketListGuy.com and I've been doing that ever since.

Lucas P. Johnson: That's amazing. The bucket list guy in the house. Woot, woot.

Travis Bell: He's a spoiler alert, gents. When I was registering it too and I was on the Google machine and it was probably more than 10 years ago now. I was like who's like the Mac daddy? Who's like the King? Who's like the thought leader? Who's like the expert of bucket lists in the world? Oh, look, no one. So I literally called myself the world's number one bucket list expert because no one else was doing it. No one else is claiming the title. Said stuff it, I'll do it. There I am. But, you know, that's the story of my life, you know. You know, throw yourself in the deep water and learn how to swim. But it's really cool. Like I get called up for magazines and media and this sort of thing and they'll go oh, we're doing this big spread on bucket list in our magazine and we've got all these experts. But we really want yours because you're the world's number one bucket list expert. I'm like you got me. I'm pretty busy, you know, being the world's number one bucket list expert. So sorry to spoil it but, you know, I like to just be real.

Lucas P. Johnson: Self-declared is now a reality.

Travis Bell: Well, that's it. Yeah. The world has conspired and here we are, you know, doing this thing. But it has compounded, you know? And I have studied this phenomenon I guess more than anyone in the world. I've applied, you know, really at the essence of it is positive psychology which is really the science of happiness. Helping people, you know, experience more meaning, more purpose, and more fulfillment in their life before they, before they get given a use by date. You know? That's what it's all about. So I want to help help more people live regret-free lives rather than regretful lives. And this is, this is the brand, the bucket. This brand is what we've put over the positive psychology principles. We've actually called it bucket list -ology. We've actually written a white paper that explains what we're, what we're doing. It's not a real science. I get called a bucket list -ologist as well. That is not a real, that is not a real science either. I mean we made that up. But we have written a white paper because when we go into companies and do big programs, you know, they love to see what is the theory? What is the research? What's the studies behind, you know, the stuff that you teach? And that's essentially what it's all about.

Lucas P. Johnson: You know, we talk a lot about perception on this show and how people perceive you but also how you are perceived in society. I mean you saying that I'm the number one bucket list expert in the world, that has a lot of weight because now people are perceiving that. And it's just incredible how you took that one and it's become, it's become a reality.

Travis Bell: Yeah. Well, I mean I actually believe it now. You know, like the proof's in the pudding. I've got, you know, we've got bucket list, certified bucket list coaches now in 22 countries, about to be 23, 24 countries probably this week. And where we've just, you know what? And you know what it's like in business, you just gotta stay in your lane. You know, pick a highway, then pick a lane, then on the lane. Our lane is bucket list. No one can question it. We've created so much noise and so much, so many programs and, you know, everything around this concept of a bucket list. And it's really a deep reflection of who I am anyway. So this is the filter. This is, this is how I look at life. And we've really, like it's more than just a brand. It's really, you know, created a tribe, created a network, created a movement, I guess, around the whole thing. So I guess we've got, we've just lumped all this content onto this brand and it has reinforced it, you know, year on year.

Lucas P. Johnson: Now, Trav, when you went up on the TED stage, how was that? How did you feel?

Travis Bell: Fucking nervous.

Lucas P. Johnson: Like it's not everyone that gets asked to do that, man.

Travis Bell: Fucking nervous. I mean if you notice about three minutes, three minutes into it, if you've watched it and I'm like, you know, doing a whole of fucking, I was super nervous. Here's the thing. It was on my bucket list obviously to and you see me tick it off live in front of everybody. There's about 2,000 people in front of me there. But it's the biggest in Australia at the Melbourne Exhibition Center. And 2,000 people in front of me and four cameras on me and me on a 3x3 red dot. Now I run around like an idiot when I normally do talks and me being on a 3x3 red dot s like a monkey in a cage, honestly. But I was super nervous because, you know, Jon Yeo who's the curator of TEDx Melbourne said look, mate, don't do your regular shtick. We don't want professional speakers up here doing their thing and, you know, insert joke, insert laugh. You know, it's not about that. You're not doing a company presentation here. It's about the idea we're spreading and it helped me really reinvent the message and I've been doing it ever since. So really, you know, kudos to Jon Yeo of TEDx Melbourne. Shout out because he really does curate some amazing events and really sticks to the ethos of TED. And so yeah, for me, it was about introducing and unpacking a concept, a piece of intellectual property called The My Bucket List Blueprint. As you know, you know, it's a 12-step acronym for how to create a personally meaningful and holistic bucket list. It really helps people sort of go North, South, East, West in their own heads and helps them, you know, extract and articulate everything that they want to do in life. And, you know, people have watched that. They've sent me all sorts of messages. It's changed lives. It's helped people through depression. It's helped people, God, you know, it's helped people who were on suicide watch, mate. You know, like there's been some crazy, crazy testimonials and things come out of it. The thing on the TED stage, yeah, was a big tick on the bucket list. I know it is for a lot of other people and, you know, but it was terrifying even as a professional speaker. It was terrifying. And here's the other, here's other thing I've got coming up soon or hopefully, I can do it by the end of the year and in front of it, I want to do it in front of a live audience and that is a stand-up comedy gig.

Patryk Labuzek: Oh, nice.

Travis Bell: I am fucking shitting myself. And I'm like I'm a keynote speaker. I've got no problem making an idiot of myself in front of thousands of people on stage talking about what I already know. Well, look back on it now. I've done the TEDx thing. But stand-up comedy, you know, it probably freaks me out more than anything I've ever done.

Patryk Labuzek: Now where is that taking place, Trav? Is that in Australia as well or do you have a different place in mind?

Travis Bell: Patryk, I'm not, mate, I'm not going to fucking tell you because I'm not, I'm not telling you, I'm not telling anyone where it's going to be or when because I know all my mates and you guys would be in there. You know, if I told everyone, I'll have like, there'll be no room for anyone like any general public. It'd all be my mates, you know, on the drink, just heckling. It'll be, it'll be, and I won't even get anything done. So it has to be.

Patryk Labuzek: Of course.

Travis Bell: Yeah.

Lucas P. Johnson: You know, we like to think we're locals there in Australia. We spent quite a bit of time, like eight months. So, you know, if you feel like we can become one of the mates after this, just hit us up. You have our email.

Travis Bell: Where did you, where did you go in Australia? Where did you live in Australia? Or you just did the traveling thing?

Patryk Labuzek: No. So we, do you want to go, Lucas?

Lucas P. Johnson: No, no. Go, Paddy.

Patryk Labuzek: So we went on a student exchange. I went from Dublin. Lucas went from Pennsylvania. And we went to UNSW in Sydney. And so that's where we met up on a beach on the first day. [inaudible]

Travis Bell: That's romantic, isn't it?

Patryk Labuzek: Yeah, yeah. You know, we became very, very good friends. Had some amazing talks. Then we did quite a bit of traveling all around Australia honestly. Every weekend, it was a road trip weekend. We would drive.

Travis Bell: Did you come down to Melbourne?

Patryk Labuzek: Yeah. We spent how many days?

Travis Bell: Great Ocean Road?

Patryk Labuzek: I did, I did. And it was absolutely stunning. The Twelve Apostles. The whole Ocean Road in itself. We've seen some white koalas in the park as well. Very white spots.

Travis Bell: I live about 20 minutes east of the start of, where I am right now, I'm 20 minutes east of the start of the Great Ocean Road. And we, you know, those Twelve Apostles? Yeah. We surf, we surf all through there. Some big, big, big waves and even bigger sharks down there.

Lucas P. Johnson: So, Trav, kind of relating to Twelve Apostles, the bucket list. The 12 that are outlined here, I'm just curious what is a fear? I know that the comedy is kind of a fear that you have. What is a recent fear that you have overcome in your life?

Travis Bell: Well, it's not so much probably a fear but I recently, well, two and a half years ago, I became a step dad to four kids. And I never thought I'd be a dad and here I am. I'm adopted myself and I'm a really, I feel like I'm paying it forward and I've got four amazing kids. And I was kind of I guess fearful of that to a certain extent. But now it's like, eh, you know, because they're amazing. That one and then I surfed some pretty big waves the other day. And that's another fear. But now recently, when we talk recently, there's not a lot of stuff because honestly, you know, fear to me is kind of like a signpost as to I should do it. You know? Because I'm really fascinated, really curious about what, you know, the bigger version of myself on the other side. See, I say with this whole bucket list thing, it's not just about, it's not just about writing a bucket list or getting one out of your head and writing it down. It's really about how you reverse engineer every aspect of your life, of your life in order to make this stuff come to fruition. And so it's a growth of view on that journey towards these, you know, personal destinations. But more importantly, it's about the person that exists on the other side, the person that you don't know yet. And that's actually, it's called our potential, right? And that's what I, that's what I'm excited about all the time. You know? That drives the spirit of adventure, that drives the facing of the fears. What else can I do? You know, like I said in that TED talk, people are dying at 40 and being buried at 80 because a lot of people just give up and the whole matrix that society is built like that. I'll be happy when syndrome, waiting for the perfect time to come around or waiting for someday to arrive which isn't a day of the week. You know, a lot of people just give up and they start sleep walking through their life and they just exist. They don't live. They're living by default, not by design. So at the end of the day, me being I guess congruent to our global message now is always facing the fear and doing it anyway. You know, like as long as it's all within reason, of course. But there's not too much I won't, I won't try. In Cambodia, yeah, last year, I ate two foods that I probably shouldn't have. I was very fearful of doing that. I don't know what that popped up. I ate King Cobra and, wait for it, goat's penis.

Lucas P. Johnson: Wow.

Travis Bell: Yeah, yeah.

Patryk Labuzek: Okay.

Travis Bell: Yeah. In like this, in this soup. Fucking disgusting. But I was doing a talk over there and my host were like oh, this is, you know, I went to this restaurant that one of the, one of the guys owned and this is what they, you know, this is one of their dishes that they have. And Cambodia's been through, you know, genocide and everything else, you know, through [inaudible]. And so the whole country starved and they just grabbed whatever they can and some of their dishes stayed. I don't know why that, I can understand maybe the Cobra thing but the fuck's with the, you know, the other one. And then I'm like are you guys, There's 10 of them around me and they're all like business associates. And I'm like do you make every foreigner eat this? And they're like yep. And do you guys eat this? And then you've got 10 guys just smashing fucking goat penis in front of me. And I'm like Jesus, okay, well, they can. So I faced the fear and did it anyway. And that was more about peer pressure.

Lucas P. Johnson: Peer pressure gets the best of us, right?

Travis Bell: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Lucas P. Johnson: So one of my favorite analogies especially on the TED talk was the 80 squares. That really gave me perspective. You know, I'm 23 years old so I'm still working my way through life. Still working my life through, going through the demons and all that. You know, 80 chances kind of looking at life as a program or fully loaded application. You know, once it hits 100%, game over and looking at it from that lens for me just yesterday and really looking through and reviewing and going through everything, I just I was, I was kind of like thunderstruck. You know, man? Just sitting there like shit, what have I done? You know, what do I want to do? Where do I see my future? And just that, Travis, is huge for me. I mean having guests on the show is great but having the realization just from being able to go and review.

Travis Bell: Yeah. That's what it's all about, man. And, you know, when you, when you get to 40, this shit really fucking sinks in. You know, like I did that exercise, how's this, right? I did that exercise. I did that exercise for a superannuation which is like, you know, our retirement plan in Australia, a 401k in America it's called. And I had about 400 very old people in the audience. Let's just call them very old people. So, you know, it was a superannuation or 401k conference put on by mortgage bank or something. Anyway, so I did that exercise and when I do the exercise and give everyone, normally I give everyone a sheet and they write down, you know, that they do the 80 squares. now 80 squares just for the listeners, watchers at home basically represents our years on earth. You know, the average age of death is 83 for girls, 70, sorry, and 79 for us guys. Right? Same as America. Same as Australia. Sam is Ireland. In places like Vietnam and Cambodia, it's like 70. In some countries, 65. You know, I've done this in Vietnam, very low down there. I've done this in India, very low in there. Done this in South Africa, very low there too. And then I have everyone cross out of the 80 squares, it hits you like a ton of bricks, I have them cross out the ones that they've been alive. So if you're 40, half of them are already gone and you're looking at it going fuck, okay. So, and then I ask three very poignant questions of every group. I say okay, question number one, how many people, you know, how many people in this room and this might be like the TED talk, there's 2,000 people in front of me. Of that 2,000 people, I said all right, how many, how many of you know people who have been diagnosed or died from cancer? And you'll put, you see 2,000 people, from my perspective, 2,000 people put up their hands going yup. And everyone knows someone, right? Diagnosed or died from cancer. Just like the movie, The Bucket List movie. The second thing or the second question I ask is how many people do you know have been diagnosed or died from cancer? Show of fingers. All right. And then you'll get people put up two. A younger audience, you'll see twos, threes, fours. Older audiences, they're nearly all this and putting up their feet for toes. And that's scary. 2,000 people doing this. I said look around the room. And everyone's like holy fuck. And then the third thing I said, all right, this is what sinks the audience, this is the virtual cancer diagnosis that I like to disrupt people with. Not shock them but disrupt them. All right? And that is the third question is how many of them that you just said with your fingers, how many of them made their 80 squares? Radio silence. You know, people might put up ones or two fingers or whatever. So people really quickly realize as we have just now how prevalent this is and how much, or how, sorry, how little time we do have left. We don't know when our time is up. And that kind of shocks people into oh, maybe I better, you know, create some time out of my life to work on my life, separate my daily to-do list from my bucket list. And let's get fair dinkum, as we say here in Australia, let's get fair dinkum about this. Let's start giving that some priority over my daily to-do list and let's choose happiness. That's what it's all about, right?

Lucas P. Johnson: Why do you think people get in this idea in their head that they can't do this? They can't achieve their dreams. They can't pursue their bucket list. They can't, they can't achieve something. Why do you think that has become such a common, I would like to call it a common misconception is you can't do it. I mean in reality, you can. You just got to focus your time and effort. Why do you think nowadays it's even more prevalent than it was?

Travis Bell: Well, I don't know if it is. I don't know. You know, some people do, some people don't. But I think that the common misconception, misconception is the perception of a bucket list. People think that a bucket list is running around the world, doing all the travel adventures that you want to do, you know, that takes a lot of time and money to do. That's why I actually created this, My Bucket List Blueprint is to help people be instantly gratified, you know, rather than wait for the delayed gratification of what travel might bring. They can actually, you know, do things now rather than wait until some day or the perfect time. So learning a new, you know, take lessons, learning a new skill, learning a new language, learning, you know, I've been on a lot of stuff in the last six months, on a lot of podcasts and interviews and things about bucket list in, you know, in the face of COVID-19 and the lockdowns and everything else that's going on. You know? And given them a huge perspective shift. One to help them choose happiness because the mental health plan is fucked right now and it's got really bad. Like double, double depression, double the stats on depression in the last six months. It's crazy. So we're already, we're already screwed and now we're even worse. So these tools help people see the light at the end of the tunnel that they can go after those low, low hanging fruit. There's achievable things on their bucket list and not wait until, you know, I've got the money and the time off to do the things that I really want to do on my travel bucket. Because travel is only one of the 12 items that we, that we unpack as part of the My Bucket Las Blueprint. So I think the perception, the overall perception of a bucket list is wrong. All right? A lot of people, I created, you know, the contra perception of what a bucket list was. And at the end of the day, I think a lot of people don't do their bucket list because they are so busy being busy. They're busy on their to-do list, not on their bucket list. And they don't give themselves time out of their lives to work on their lives. That's what our coaches do. They simply help people take time out of their life, you know, to work on their life in groups and help them separate their daily to-do list from their bucket list and help them prioritize their life more so than just their work and their daily to-do list. You know, I say a bucket list is a tangible life plan where our business plan or our career plan should fit into our life plan and not be the other way around. It really is. And when you're engaging in your, in your life plan, you'll be engaged in your business plan and your career plan. It's just how it works. It's a direct flow on effect. But I want people to be happier now and that's what we've created it because, you know, look at the rates of depression anxiety, suicide. In fact, we've even got this thing called loneliness epidemic now. No, like Google it. It's a real thing. It's the adverse effect of social media. And so I'm trying to bring and my team, trying to bring these tools, get these tools out there to people through mediums such as this and everything else that we can to help people tool up, to self-manage, to get to a happier place and not be a statistic because we're fighting a big, big battle in terms of the mental health problems that are going on right now. We're doing our little bit through this lens of bucket list to inspire, motivate, and hopefully help people be happy. And now rather than waiting until later on. But I think it's, I think it's, you know, it's around, you know, if you're hanging around other bucket listers, then it's going to rub off. If you're, you know, why we don't do a lot of things is because of fear of success, fear of failure, hanging around the wrong people, in the wrong relationships. You can call it the matrix, society. It's all fear and it's all fear of being, of embarrassment as well. Standing out from the herd, being isolated, living life on your own terms, not fitting in with the other mammals is the thing that keeps us in a box. Fuck that. Like what gives you the, you know, like, because people who want to be on your journey, who want to, you know, who are encouraging you, who want to see you win, you know, there's those people out there. We're so the, number one regret in this book called The Top Five Regrets of the Dying. These aren't fake books by the, it's not, these are real books. These are real books. Like it's not just a, like a Zoom fucking background. Like these are real books. I haven't read any of them. But that's not the point. But I've got one here that is apparently all right and it's called The Top Five regrets of the Dying, right? And the number one regret that Bronnie Ware spoke about in her book is what is the number one regret? Quote. "I wish I lived a life true to myself, not what others expected of me." Number one, regret, right? Proven, proven, proven. Everyone refers to it. The number one regret is we're living in, living in the shadow of someone else. Normally our parents, normally our peers, normally the school that we went to or whoever. So breaking that mold, living life on your own terms which is this whole podcast is about is honestly, that's the fear, the fear of embarrassment, the fear of breaking away from the herd, the fear of defriending people that aren't supportive, the fear of getting out of relationships and forming new ones is super scary.

Patryk Labuzek: Well, now that you're talking about the fear and all that comes with it, you know, there's a question kind of that lingers in my mind. Basically, how do you respond to like unsolicited feedback? The critics, the haters let's even say? Is there a way that you handle them and, you know, how do you do it?

Travis Bell: I'll answer a question with a question. How do you reckon I deal with it?

Lucas P. Johnson: How do you deal with the haters? You know, it's, for me, man, I'm just so sick of, when we started Project Dream Mastery, we were just sick of the expectations people had on us. We were sick of living up to the standards of what people had for us, family, friends, peers. Just said screw it. You know?

Travis Bell: Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them All. Fuck them. We can't say it any clearer. Hey, like I know this is probably PG or whatever the.

Lucas P. Johnson: No.

Patryk Labuzek: Not at all.

Travis Bell: Jesus Christ. I mean we, you know, and I'm thinking, you know, I'm 47 now. And I think you just get older and more angry or more opinionated when you get older. You know? But if you, if you honestly are living, you know, living to try and please everyone else, then you fucking lose. You're a loser. Honestly, you're not winning. You're losing. And you're at the mercy of their agenda. You're their bitch. How does that feel? Fuck. Fuck that. You'll be unhappy for the rest of your life. If you don't draw a line in the sand and sure, like if, I've just coached too many people that are in this situation. They go oh, you know what? I might start that business or I might do that. You do the thing or I might go after, you know, a goal or something like that. Ah, but that's going to really piss off my, you know, fuck them. And people will project it. See, the thing is, we've got this critter brain, this reptilian brain that is, that's in us, right? It's in us. We can't get rid of it. It's part of our hereditary, it's part of our makeup. It's hardwired. And it's designed to keep us safe. It's designed, it's there so we can continue to be mammals. All right? And to reproduce and keep this thing called a human, human existence going, right? So if you step outside of the norm, all right? Step outside of being the mammal, step outside of the herd and the herd mentality, the critter brain will go off and it'll say no, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come back, come back. Stay safe. So you can keep on fucking people and keep on making babies and you can keep this thing called a human existence going, right? It's a very crude way of saying it but I'm going to, I've said it. So the point being you gotta, you gotta, and that's why, that's why there's fear when you're jumping out of planes. That's why it's fear when you're standing up on a stage talking, you know, talking in public. You know, these are all, these are all our reptilian brain going off. Saying no, no, no, come back, come back. That's too much. You might harm yourself. I'm going to send out, I'm going to send out to your receptors as well. No, no, no, not good. There's some chemicals there to slow you down. Susan Jeffries, another fake book that I've got back there is a Feel the, it's about that thick. You don't have to read it. You don't have to read it because on the top, on the, on the cover, it says Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway. They are your, here are your signposts. The point being is you want to live your own life of no regrets. You know, as Liz Brown says, "Live fully, die empty." Be the master of our own destiny. I don't think that, I think that's the Holy Grail. You know, it, you know, being the cause, not the effect. Being the cause that you create yourself and not the effect of others. You know? And you know, and one of the, you know, one of the interesting things a coach said to me once, he said, you know, imposter syndrome, who am I to be the world's number one expert? Who am I to be the speaker out there on the TEDx stages and speaking to audience around the world? Who am I to do that? You know, where my brain's going who do you think you are? Who do you think you are? Who do you think, you know, mates and parents going, you, really you? And I said to my coach once, you know, look, there's so much fear associated because I only got into public speaking because I was fearful of it. It was the big domino that I had to push over in my life that affected a lot of the other confidence issues that I was going through. And at the end of the day, I said to the coach, you know, what are you, what do you do about this? How do you, how do you become good at this? How do you stop this, this internal language going, going off all the time every time you step out? And he said it's always going to be there, Trav. But what you're going to do is go out, just go out and start helping people, mate. Go out and start helping people. Well, what do you mean? You know, how is that going to help? You go out there and help enough people and the adulation and the feedback and the testimonials and the real heartfelt messages that you'll receive back that will drown out. You go and help enough people that that noise will drown out the noise inside your head. And no truer word has been spoken. So my advice to anyone who wants to step out is go help a shit load of fucking people. And this thing, and this thing will honestly, you'll just like, it won't be, won't be a thing. And that's why I say to everyone fail forward faster. You know, go out there now and address this. Go out and start helping people. Don't worry if you're getting charged, you're paying, you're not getting paid for it at the start. Just go out and help people. But what gives you the right to not go out there and play the biggest game possible while you're here? All right? What gives you the right to keep the learnings from your personal life inside of you and not out there? Because I bet that your breakdown before breakthrough moments, your confusion before clarity moments where we've learned a shit load about our lives, whether it's our life or our business or doing whatever, we've got a heap of learnings that so many people keep those learnings within them and they don't share them. But I bet there's a former you, there's a bunch of yous out there that need to hear these learnings. They need to, you know, like this is the kind of advice that I give to people who want to write their own book. It's like how dare you keep those fucking learnings inside you? That's, you're, they need to be out there. They need to be out there helping people. Like get serious. How dare you keep it within you? You know what I mean? That's not what it's about. That's soemthing they're doing.

Lucas P. Johnson: We had a previous guest talk about giving back similar obviously, 99.9% just give, give, give, give. And we talked about how folks nowadays are so focused on monetizing everything and anything, not even nowadays, I mean for all the time, people want to make money. And it's that kind of thought process of how can we get out of our head to just say hey, you know, give back, do this? You know, what has, I don't know, have you ever had that mentality where it's like I got to monetize this?

Travis Bell: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm gotta check in with the head or check in with the heart. You know, checking with the heart is actually one of my values which is your values, your internal rule book, right? Is okay, and ego and you know, you've heard it from Zig Ziglar and all these master coaches. Go out and help enough people and they'll help you back. You know? Or something like that. Go out and help enough people. You know, if it's like oh yeah, go out and help enough people and charge them a shit load of money. But that's all well and good. But if you're focused on the money side of things, you're not going to be helping a lot of people. You're not. All right? It's scarcity thinking, not abundant thinking. All right? Set a number of people that you want to help, that you want to reach, that you want to, whose lives you want to change for the better in whatever medium it is, in whatever area it is. Like go out and set a big fucking hairy, audacious goal number that is, and a vision and a mission and create some values around that. The vision is so big that it's unachievable in your lifetime but the mission is more quantifiable. But our mission within bucket list coach is to is to help 10 million bucket listers live purposely fulfilled lives. No idea. I still don't know how but it, but I know it. And all of that team around the world knows it. And all we're doing is like, you know, when we get, when the bucket list coaches go through training, this guy, oh, we've got 10 million. All right? It's not one million. We can kind of do that. But 10 million? That's like fuck. You know? How am I going to, how? So I'm like all right, new bucket list coaching Chile or Finland or wherever you are, what's going to be your number? Like we need you to contribute to this number as part of this. You know, one of our Canadian, new Canadian coaches said I'm putting, put on putting a hundred thousand into this. All right. There you go. Cool. All right. Anyone else? I'm probably 10,000. All right. Cool. Well, let's reverse engineer what a business plan looks like on that a hundred thousand, on that 10,000, on that thousand. I don't care but let's go and affect the lives. Let's go and get 10 million graduates of our programs. That's what we want.

Patryk Labuzek: I love the mindset because it's what we talked about before. It's not the if. It's the when. And that's very important to take actions, you know, and achieving our potentials and, you know, moving with the bucket list and all that you talk about.

Travis Bell: It drives everything. Yeah. it drives everything. And it just shifts, it shifts your chemistry. You know? It really does.

Patryk Labuzek: Yeah. It's very, very power.

Travis Bell: Yeah. So I challenge everyone to obviously write a vision for themselves. You know, write a, even a set of, you know, Grant Cardone says, you know, in his 10x rule, you know, a 10x, what's your, what's your 10x plan? You know, in every area of your life? One of the, one of the interesting things that going into this whole COVID-19 lockdown and everything, and the, you know, our April and May was shit. And, you know, it's different around different parts of the world. We've gone through phase two now here in Australia with really harsh lockdowns in Melbourne especially. And we made a family pact, you know, my partner Tracy and I and the kids. We made a pact that when this whole COVID-19 thing went down to make a pact to come out of this stronger, better in every single area of our life. Like to basically go fuck you, COVID. And like and that's health, relationships, it's parents, it's leaders, it's business, money, everything. So far, so good. And then some.

Lucas P. Johnson: You took the question that I was just about to ask you. You know, how has your outlook and relationships changed? How has on loved ones, friends shifted throughout your journey? I mean in a relationship outside of COVID-19, how has, how has that shifted your perspective?

Travis Bell: For relationships?

Lucas P. Johnson: Relationships, loved ones, friends, so forth

Travis Bell: I've over the years of doing this, you know, I'm a personal development speaker essentially. So I've got a really, I mean a part of, part of my values is integrity. So I gotta make sure that I practice what I preach. You know? If I want to say it from a stage especially, I don't want to be found out as a fake or someone that's just like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah or is full of shit. So I'm very determined to practice what my approach in my life. So, you know, over the, over the years, I've have deliberately, I want to say culled because I'm not an asshole, but I've deliberately distanced myself from certain people, haters or people that aren't serving my goals. I've uprooted friends of, you know, and that's just part of the game. You know? Part of, part of the process. Seeking, seeking friend, seeking networks and friends that do not exist in my life right now. I'm always doing that. You know, I know the types of people that I'm going to be friends within the next, you know, one to three years. They don't even know it yet. Right? Because I'm, the thing is when you break from the herd, like I was talking about before, and you become, and you're not playing the role anymore, you've broken character. You're out of that character in that movie of their life. You've broken, you've broken that character. You're no longer fitting in. Then, you know, the cool thing is is even though you might feel ostracized because we are mammals and that's where we get love and acceptance within the herd, just know there's another herd of people, another group of players that are, that are running at a faster pace, that are waiting for you to catch up, to then give you love and acceptance at that level, at that faster pace, you know, maybe, maybe more, you know, different mindset obviously. And I've done that again and again and again and again in my, in my time. Is always sort of upgrading, always seeking, always seeking to expand and certainly never, you know, and always be coachable as well. So never thinking that now I've got all the answers. So always willing to learn, always be coachable, always in that growth mindset.

Lucas P. Johnson: Trav, you've gave us so much value today. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Just so excited to be able to have this time with you. I know that it's late there and I know it's a big day. So I just want to, I want to pose one last question to you. We typically, we wrap up the show with all the information. But there's been so much and just been absorbing it here. So I'm going to ask you one last question, kind of a recap. What are three pieces of advice that you could give people right now that are going to help them take massive action in their life?

Travis Bell: Well, I'll, obviously, you know, depends on who's listening and watching but, you know, write your bucket list down. Okay? Actually write it down. Don't just think about it. Actually write it down. Okay? And because that in itself is a consciousness exercise. It's a separation exercise for me daily to do this. You know, watch my TED talk, listen to this, use that as a guide, go through the My Bucket List Blueprint and help, you know, extract this stuff and put it down on paper. Because you're going to, if you actually write stuff down, you've got a 42% more likelihood of actually manifesting. So you might as well write it down. Second thing you're going to do is send it to us. Send it to me. I dare you. I dare you. You'll see what happens. I'll put this out there. Right? And you guys included. Lucas, Patryk, you're sending me your bucket list. Deal?

Patryk Labuzek: You got a deal.

Lucas P. Johnson: Started it.

Travis Bell: Deal? Patryk, you broke up there, Patryk. Do we have a deal?

Patryk Labuzek: Sorry. Yeah, we have a deal. 100%.

Lucas P. Johnson: It sounds like a deal. It sounds like, yeah, it's a deal. We'll send that to you.

Travis Bell: Good, good. And I, and I want you to pay these forward to all of your watchers and listeners, your crew, and get them to send it to me either by DM or Trav@TheBucketListGuy.com. That is my personal email. Send it to that.

Lucas P. Johnson: Perfect.

Travis Bell: I dare you. Because I'm the world's number one, bucket list expert.

Lucas P. Johnson: It's a reality now.

Travis Bell: And I might have magical powers in order to help that stuff on that sheet of paper come to fruition faster. I may have, I may have those magical powers but I might not. But the point being is I want it wrote and I want to, I want to help people really draw the line in the sand, draw the line in the sand, create a stop loss on what they're not going to tolerate from here on, you know, or what they're not going to tolerate from here on in every aspect of their life. You know? There is a reason you guys asked me that question about, you know, going after fear and this sort of thing and going after the life. You know? What's going to be your new set of standards? What will and what won't you tolerate? That has to be defined. That has to be actually written down. The other thing, the other thing, I do this exercise in my private clients is detail what does a typical perfect week actually look like in your future world? What are you going to do? Who are you hanging around with? What sort of conversations are you going to have? Where you're living? You know, who's in your life at that point in time? What are you eating? What are you driving? What are your daily habits? What's your exercise routine? You know, like scary detail. I reckon that's the number one thing that flipped me and it really helped me define who I was going to have in my life, what I was going to be doing, what I didn't and especially what I didn't want to have in my life. And it really created a set of rules of what I say no to and what I say yes to.

Lucas P. Johnson: Wow. All right. That's sounds like a challenge that has been laid. Go do it. We're going to take massive action and do that. We will send you that here this week. That is our, I'll set that on our next steps for us. And yeah, with that, let me give us a quick recap. If you're interested in connecting with Trav, you can find additional information in the show notes or find him on social media at The Bucket List Guy or Trav Bell.

Travis Bell: Cool.

Patryk Labuzek: Yeah. And just a little reminder that Trav has a great website where you can learn about his experiences, you know, speaking and coaching. So feel free to check out TheBucketListGuy.com.

Lucas P. Johnson: Paddy, do you want to give them the homework for this week?

Patryk Labuzek: Sure. As we know, homework is very, very important to push ourselves forward. So number one, as always, go follow Project Dream Mastery. It's going to help us guys and we hope it's going to help you guys too. Follow our socials and on Thanksgiving Day 2020, we're giving away some pretty sweet merch to some of our followers. Now watch Travis' TED talk called Life's Way Too Short Not to Live to Your Bucket List and check that out. A little bit of reading, guys. One of the great books, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson and definitely worth a read. It's very short but it's really, really amazing. So do that.

Lucas P. Johnson: It's a good book. I figured that it was relatable today so you could give them a little bit of homework there. Stop giving a fuck. Just go after, follow our man, Trav here and also make sure to accept that challenge and take that action. So we just launched our Patreon membership community where you can become one of our elite supporters and gain exclusive access to early releases, live streams, and Q&A. We have a few different tiers available with some pretty sweet perks so make sure to check them out and consider supporting the show. Go to ProjectDreamMastery.com and click the red button that says Become a Patreon to learn more. As we reach our monthly goals, we will have some pretty sweet giveaways. If you have not already, please make sure to review the show, subscribe, like, and share so that we can reach more amazing listeners like you. All of our shows are available in both audio, video, and written form. So make sure to check out our website to access the full experience. Again thank you so much for joining us today. We look forward to seeing you on the next episode to come. Thanks, Trav, for joining us. It's been great.